43 Things should allow sub-things or thing steps 2 cheers

For several of my 43 Things, I have many small steps to make. For a simple example, look at the goal “Give 4300 cheers.” First, I have to give 1000, then 2000, etc. For more complex goals, like “Learn Spanish,” sub-things or thing steps might include “get a high school Spanish book on Amazon,” “Use the ATM in Spanish,” and “Read my city’s weekly Spanish newspaper from start to finish this week.”

I would appreciate the functionality to “nest” goals – to make some goals smaller parts of a larger goal. It would be OK to keep the quota at 43 – if I have 5 sub-things under “have a full-length book of poetry published by a reputable publisher of poetry,” you can count the big goal and all the sub-goals as part of my 43 maximum. I just want the ability to do it.




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Josh Petersen
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What do you think would be the benefit of nesting goals over just writing entries? In your examples, you could just write an entry on what steps you are going to take (to declare your plan) and later which step you are on.

We’ve debated sub goals a lot—and while no final decision has been made—the fact that entries are so flexible and simple often beats the complexity of adding sub-goals.



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I’d have to agree with Josh.

You can break down a goal into Entries. Each entry could be a sub-goal (but only you really know it’s a sub-goal)

For example, look at a goal like identify 100 things that make me happy.
Technically, that is a goal with 100 sub-goals. You don’t mark the main goal as completed without completing the 100 sub-steps (unless you delete or give up)

I’d prefer the flexibility of the current setup to the subgoal idea.



Should do this

Sub-goals and entries are slightly different concepts, and are not mutually exclusive. For example, for a goal like “Start a Nonprofit Organization,” you could have general entries like, “I want to start a nonprofit that helps left-handed kids.” But you could also have a list of sub-goals about which to write specific entries:

“Sub-goal 1: Find an attorney to make it legal.
“Sub-goal 2: Raise $25,000 for startup.
“Sub-goal 3: Find some left-handed kids to help.”

We could call the sub-things steps (43 steps?) On the 43 Things profile page, the goal would be “Start a Nonprofit Organization,” and under it, in grey letters, it would say “3 cheers | 3 steps | 5 entries | team of 6

I know that one reason I don’t use 43 Things to pursue my larger goals is because it’s hard to break them down and check them off with the current system. It’s great for goals that are concrete and measurable, but for larger goals, I think there needs to be a more visually-oriented way to break them down into concrete steps.




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